Earth Era - v2 Chapter 369
When Xiao Yun said the word “deception”, Dink’s mind suddenly flashed the piece of information he got from the Martian’s mind.
Robots are stupid.
Since they are stupid, then go and deceive them.
It’s not that Dink didn’t think about this issue, but after a long time of thinking, Dink finally gave up the idea. Because DINK faces an insurmountable obstacle. So at this moment, when Xiao Yun said this word, Dink retorted almost subconsciously: “This is not feasible.”
“Oh? Why isn’t it feasible?” Xiao Yun asked with a smile.
“Are you talking about deceiving the robots that survived the “separate risk avoidance” strategy to give up self-replication? This is absolutely impossible.” Dink murmured, “This involves the internal logic judgment mechanism of the robot, and we …There is no ability to change the robot’s logical judgment mechanism. We can’t convince the robot that “it is best for itself to copy only 10,000 robots”, or “it is best to maintain the current situation and not copy itself” Such lies, which conflict with the logical judgment mechanism of robots. Also, how to destroy most robots by deception? Do they think that burning engines, burning chips, or attacking their own kind is the only way Conducive to survival and reproduction? This is equally unreasonable.”
“No, this is very reasonable.” Xiao Yun sighed, “Robots have something in common with us humans, that is, the acquisition of all information from the outside world is based on certain organs or certain instruments. Then Dink, I ask you , how can you be sure that I am real? How can you be sure that my presence is not the result of some stimulation in some part of your head? Imagine that maybe I don’t exist at all, it’s just that your vision and hearing organs receive a certain Because of the control of the radio waves sent by these instruments, you will mistakenly think that I exist… Isn’t this also reasonable?”
Dink was startled, and then said: “The brain in a vat? It doesn’t make sense.”
The so-called brain in a vat is an idea. Suppose a person has only one brain, the brain is placed in a large tank filled with nutrient solution, there are many electrodes connected to the brain, by sending different electrical signals to stimulate the brain, such as responsible for hearing , responsible for vision, touch, taste and other parts, because these electrical stimulations are no different from the biological currents or neural signals naturally generated in the human body, then the brain in this big vat can still feel everything in the world, The difference is that everything the brain feels is deliberately controlled—but as the brain itself, it has no way of telling the difference.
Then a very scary point can be deduced from this, that is, as a living person in the real world, how can you be sure that you really exist, not just a bottle in a big vat brain?
This question is actually unsolvable, because any evidence in the real world, whether it is what you see or hear, everything you touch, the little coolness you accidentally feel on your skin, the way you touch your loved one The warm touch… everything, can’t be used as evidence to deny the brain in the vat, because all this may be the product of electric stimulation.
But from a philosophical level, this problem can be easily solved. The basis for solving this problem is Occam’s razor. Occam’s Razor states a principle of thinking about things, that is, do not multiply entities unless necessary. Applying Occam’s razor to the brain in a vat is that if we assume that each of us is not an entity, but is just a brain in a vat, then we also need to assume many, many things, such as assuming a certain The big powers have the power to create a brain in a vat, assuming they have the motive to do it, the technology to do it, assuming they have a way to not be noticed by human civilization when they first act, assuming… many, many things need to be assumed. And if the brain in a vat doesn’t exist, then we don’t need any assumptions.
That chain of assumptions is the added entities, and those entities are unnecessary, so they get shaved off by Occam’s razor, so we think that the brain in a vat doesn’t exist, we’re all living, actual human beings.
Of course Dink knows the hypothesis of the brain in a vat, and also knows the existence of Occam’s razor, so Dink will say that the brain in a vat is meaningless.
But Xiao Yun had a different view on this matter. Looking at Dink, who was getting more and more confused, Xiao Yun said with a smile: “Of course I know that a brain in a vat is meaningless, I just want to use this matter to illustrate a truth, that is… what kind of judgment does a certain existence make? All depend on external information. To achieve what kind of purpose, you only need to provide the corresponding information to the existence. There is no way to change the internal logic judgment mechanism, but the external information can be changed.”
After pondering for a while, Xiao Yun continued: “As an analogy, suppose I want to murder you by exposing you to highly toxic substances, and your logical judgment mechanism is to stay away when you see highly toxic substances, to prevent yourself from being affected by it. Toxic harm, but if I somehow gave you the wrong information and made you think that the poison is actually non-toxic and good for your body, then…would you touch it? And During this murder process, I have not changed your logical judgment mechanism, you are still you, and you were murdered only because I provided you with wrong information.
Therefore, the original logical judgment mechanism is not really important, but what is the information it receives. Information is the master of everything. Under the influence of different information, a **** may become a strong woman, and a hero may become a thief. As for their original logical judgment mechanism and behavioral rules, it doesn’t matter, it doesn’t matter. “
There was some confusion in Dink’s eyes. Dink thought about Xiao Yun’s words carefully. After a long silence, Dink found that he couldn’t find the loopholes in Xiao Yun’s words.
Because that’s what it is.
“I understand what you mean.” Dink nodded slowly: “To mislead the robot group by providing false information-the false information is specially customized for the robot’s logical judgment mechanism. The way to deceive, let the robot group act according to our mind, and finally achieve our goal… But how to do it specifically?”
Dink thought hard about this problem, and said slowly: “There are two goals to be achieved through deception, the first goal is to destroy most robots, and the second goal is to let the surviving robots give up and continue to copy themselves… um… …No. Although the logical judgment mechanism of the robot group has the “separate risk avoidance” item, it may not be impossible for us to use this rule, and we may be able to find a lie to deceive the robot group to give up this point.”
Xiao Yun smiled lightly and shook his head: “This probably won’t work. I’ve thought about this a few years ago, and I’ve imagined many kinds of lies to try to make the robots give up their hedging strategies, or make the surviving robots. They give up copying themselves…but I’ve been thinking about it for a long time, and I can’t think of a lie that can do this – although in an absolute sense, a lie can do anything, as long as the corresponding information is provided, no matter what we ask the robot to do. Yes, but this is only in an absolute sense. In reality, that is the difficulty of lying. Maybe there is some kind of lie that can achieve this goal, but the difficulty of that lie is too great. We simply can’t make it happen.
I’ve been stuck on this for a long time, thinking about it for a long time and getting nowhere. But just before, I suddenly had a bright light and figured it all out. I don’t think we really need to do this, we have to let the robot groups give up their hedging strategies or let the surviving robots give up copying themselves – yes, no need, we can modify our needs, Tolerate the existence of surviving robots, as long as we find a way to control them within the range that we can accept~www.mtlnovel.com~ And to achieve this lie, the difficulty is probably acceptable to us. “
Dink is still thinking hard: “Although the lie required to achieve this is less difficult than the lie required to “get the robots to give up their separate hedging strategies or to get the surviving robots to give up copying themselves”, but from absolute In a sense, it’s still very difficult. So what lies do we have to use to achieve this?”
Xiao Yun replied with a smile: “I don’t know what kind of lies to use to achieve this, but I think that since the general direction of our work has been determined… to improve it, then the difficulty of specific implementation will definitely not be Too high. But there is a premise principle, that is, since we are going to launch a deception offensive against the robot group, we must have no dead ends, the deception offensive must cover all robots, and no robot can escape. As long as there is one If the robot escapes, our plan may be ruined.”
Dink said: “I understand this. Please rest assured that although the smallpox virus I developed is still lacking in lethality, I can guarantee that any robot, as long as it can communicate with other robots, then it must be get infected. Wherever the smallpox virus gets, our deception offensive can get there.”
Xiao Yun nodded: “This is also the reason why I want to find you to cooperate.”‘
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